Closed loop?  What about pumping the millions of gallons of water used  
to "continually wash" all that manure into those sealed tanks?  And  
after the "fertilizer" has been extracted, what happens to the waste  
water?  Will the "enriched" manure be sufficient to maintain soil  
fertility through year after year of continuous corn?  If not, where's  
the extra nitorgen coming from?  There's a plethora of open loops  
here; these are just a couple of them.


Quoting Donna Buell <[log in to unmask]>:

> Where to even begin with that?  Here are two suggestions:
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>
>
> Don't eat industrial meat.  From the article:  "Leman said the model "has
> potential to set a new standard for `natural' beef programs that are
> profitable, sustainable and environmentally sound."  Well, cattle are
> ruminant animals.  Cattle fattened on pasture grasses have much lower levels
> of saturated fats and higher vitamin E, beta-carotene, and omega-3 levels
> compared to CAFO animals.  Cattle that are fed grain diets in confinement
> are universally plagued with gastric ailments that eventually kill them,
> although here I guess they're planning to slaughter the sick creatures and
> feed them to us before the wet distillers grain causes complete ulceration
> of the cattle's stomachs.
>
>
>
> Local control works!  From the article: "The location of Prime's first plant
> in Dakota County is a testament to tenacity. An unruly crowd at a public
> hearing on a zoning change to accommodate a location near Homer, Neb., last
> November caused Hallberg to step to the microphone and quietly withdraw his
> request for the change."
>
>
>
>
>
> Donna
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iowa Discussion, Alerts and Announcements
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Redmond, Jim
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:01 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: The S... Hits the Fan in Siouxland
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>
>
> On top of our news that an oil refinery might open just up the river, here's
> a deal to house 30,000 cattle in a "closed-loop" confinement. And it is
> supposed to help cattlemen and the environment.  I feel like we are being
> overrun.      Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> Dakota County getting 'closed loop' ethanol plant
>
> 1:00 AM
>
> By Michele Linck Journal staff writer
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> Prime BioSolutions of Omaha said Thursday that it plans to begin
> construction late this year in Dakota County of an $85 million "closed loop"
> ethanol plant that will run without using fossil-fuel energy.
>
> The company said it also has secured options and initiated permitting on
> several other sites in Nebraska and South Dakota. It took the opportunity to
> announce as well that former U.S. Sen. Tom Daschle has joined Prime as
> chairman of the board and that former ibp/Tyson Fresh Meats executive Gene
> Leman is an adviser to the company.
>
> Dakota County is first
>
> The Dakota County facility will be the company's first plant, and it is
> currently working through engineering and testing, company spokesman Daniel
> Kenney said. He said construction would not begin until the crops on the
> selected land are harvested this fall. Construction would employ about 200
> people and take about 15 months.
>
> Prime BioSolutions co-owns the patent for the process technology with E3
> BioFuels, E3 said. E3 is launching its first plant on Thursday, in Mead,
> Neb.
>
> The "closed loop" technology consists of feeding cattle in an enclosed
> facility and continually washing the manure into sealed anaerobic digesters,
> which cook it to produce methane gas that then powers an ethanol plant. The
> wet distillers grain remaining from the ethanol production can be fed to the
> cattle, completing the loop.
>
> Prime's plant will consist of up to 30,000 head of cattle and will make
> about 23 million gallons of ethanol a year, half or a quarter of what
> typical ethanol plants in the area produce. The nearly odorless process also
> produces a high-quality fertilizer.
>
> Dan McNamara, economic development director for South Sioux City and Dakota
> County, said the project will need just 400 acres, but Prime has optioned
> 1,400 acres on a farm between Dakota City and Hubbard, Neb. The conditional
> use permit granted by the county for the project in February is being
> challenged in court by a neighboring couple.
>
> Process said to help cattlemen
>
> A company statement said its CEO and founder, Dave Hallberg, invented the
> patented method technology, which it will lease to the additional
> facilities. Hallberg touted the process as a way to reduce emissions of
> greenhouse gases linked to climate change.
>
> Leman said in the statement that the closed-loop technology "is emerging at
> a very important time for the nation's cattle feeders. It offers visionary
> cattlemen the opportunity to cost effectively move cattle feeding back to
> states like Nebraska and South Dakota by taking advantage of the
> state-of-the-art weather protected facilities."
>
> Leman said the model "has potential to set a new standard for `natural' beef
> programs that are profitable, sustainable and environmentally sound."
>
> Daschle touted the technology as an answer to calls to increase biofuels
> production and decrease the "carbon footprint." He added that Prime's
> ultralow-carbon fuels "are expected to qualify for up to four times as many
> credits as conventional ethanol because they reduce the creation of all
> three major greenhouse gases: carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxides."
>
> The location of Prime's first plant in Dakota County is a testament to
> tenacity. An unruly crowd at a public hearing on a zoning change to
> accommodate a location near Homer, Neb., last November caused Hallberg to
> step to the microphone and quietly withdraw his request for the change.
>
> McNamara pursued the company immediately and a week later had a lead on the
> second site. He said at the time that he received calls from several farmers
> who thought the project would work on their land.
>
> Following Thursday's announcement, he said he had already received calls
> from other industries expressing interest in possibly supplying some of
> Prime's needs.
>
> The Siouxland Initiative first brought Prime BioSolutions to the county's
> attention.
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
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