I respectfully disagree with Phil on the issue of ideological purity. It's
not the purity that is a problem it's the ideology. I think now is the
time‹-and perhaps the only time in the political process‹-where voters can,
and should, align themselves with the cndidate whose ideals best match their
own irrespective of other considerations.

Jack Eastman 

on 7/6/03 9:48 PM, Philip Scott at [log in to unmask] wrote:

> I beg your forgiveness, Wally. I thought I was responding to Jack
> Eastman who sent me the Climate Change report. It was a mistake. Boy
> are you touchy.
> But while we have the topic open let's talk.  I believe this is also a
> discussion forum.
> 
> Firstly, I don't regard my asking a question of that nature as the kind
> of campaign advertizing that we have all agreed we'd rather not have on
> this listserve.
> Secondly, Howard Dean has also been a strong supporter of "all forms of
> clean energy" as you put it.  Check out his record:
> <http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/
> PageServer?pagename=vtenvironmentalrecord>
> Dean's position on Kyoto is that while he may have reservations about
> some provisions, the US should be an active participant in dealing with
> the global warming crisis and our government should be working toward
> compliance and ratification while negotiations are underway, since we
> are a major contributor to the problem.
> <http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/
> PageServer?pagename=about_issues_globalwarming>
> This is a far cry from the current administrations' approach of
> withdrawing from any treaty that they don't totally agree with.
> 
> I like Dennis Kucinich as well and I agree with him on many issues,
> however, I am trying to keep the whole picture in mind.  Quixotic
> campaigns are fun, ideological purity is nice (though it can be
> dangerous - look at the other extreme that's in the White House now),
> but we have to be careful not to substitute ideology for thought.  The
> overarching concern is that we cannot allow Bush, Inc. another term.  I
> know Howard Dean can defeat Bush, I don't think Kucinich can.
> 
> But that's just my opinion, what's yours?
> 
> On Sunday, July 6, 2003, at 06:20 PM, Wally Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Phil Scott asked if we were ready to volunteer for Howard Dean's
>> campaign yet. Is that sort of campaigning appropriate for this list?
>> 
>> And the fact is that Dennis Kucinich has supported all forms of clean
>> energy. He also supports the Kyoto treaty, while Howard Dean has said
>> only that we should take another look at it, but he has concerns about
>> some provisions.
>> 
>> Wally Taylor
>> 
>> 
> Philip W. Scott
> Leopold Group Political Chair
> Iowa Sierra Club
> 
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