You're right, Wally, about not all munis...and the RECs. But at least there
are some (better)examples for people to point to.
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Wally Taylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Bill:
>
> Not all munis are as enlightened as CFU. And the RECs are absolutely
> terrible. So it isn't necessarily stakeholders v. shareholders. I think we
> just need to keep educating the public.
>
> Wally Taylor
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Witt <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 11:10 am
> Subject: Re: Op Ed on Shattering the Myth of Baseload
>
>
> Well put, Ken. We do have some encouraging examples of MUNICIPAL
> utilities promoting and educating for demand reduction. Cedar Falls
> Utilties (CFU) has a community-wide effort involving winter flyovers and
> themal imaging of all residences, free individual home and business energy
> audits, coordination with the Episcopal Diocese of Iowa and other religious
> denominations on the "Cool Congregations" program (statewide coordinator is
> Sarah Webb, [log in to unmask] ), rebates for customers' purchases of
> energy efficient appliances, weatherization & insulation, shade trees, etc.
> CFU also spearheaded development of Iowa's first wind farm owned by a
> consortium of Muni's, and they contract for the lion's share of power it
> generates. As I understand it, many other Iowa Muni's are engaged in
> similar efforts. Why the difference between the Muni's and the IOU's? Could
> it have something to do with commitment to serving stakeholders vs
> shareholders?
>
> Bill Witt
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:49 AM, KENNETH LARSON <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Good Job Wally..
>>
>> But the problem with All Energy Company Projections is that they only give
>> lip service to reducing Demand.. while they will give rebates to customers
>> who install better windows and appliances there are no really effective
>> campaigns by the Utilities to address the Demand side of the Equation used
>> in Projections.. The companies do not utilize even the basic effective
>> energy projection models in addressing user audits. ...
>>
>> Now the country fights small wars with volunteers.. and it doesn't get too
>> messy or make anyone change their lives very much.. So this same approach is
>> used in the Battle to reduce Energy dependence on those places where we
>> fight those wars.... So the consumer cannot even educate themselves on how
>> to best reduce demand. Sure, sure change your light bulbs to compact
>> fluorescents but does the customer really understand how reduction in
>> Wattage also affects reducing internal heat load generated by lighting... or
>> do they understand how East and West Facing (unshaded) Windows affect
>> internal Heat Gain in Summer... . Do consumers really understand the
>> difference in installing quality constructed windows with Double of Triple
>> Glazed Low E Glass , No... Does the Consumer understand the difference in
>> Air-Conditioning Units SEER rating..NO... Certainly the Builders will
>> install the cheapest (and as a result the most energy inefficient) A/C
>> units.. (The Builder doesn't pay the Operating Bill, so why should he
>> care...)
>>
>> So the Consumer thinks..."Just so the house energy bill doesn't hurt too
>> much".. "I just can't invest in my house now."... "I have to be able to
>> afford driving my SUV and Big Pick-Up around to the job and Grocery
>> store..." So Iowa does not have an effective energy code ... or does not
>> choose to make the Energy Companies Police Huge Inefficient Users... Iowa
>> chooses instead to require at the sale of any house to pump out the septic
>> system... and Let the buyer beware of what it costs to heat and cool the
>> McMansion... built on 2 1/2 Acres of Last years Corn field...
>>
>> So where can SC be effective... work on the State adoption of an Energy
>> Code.. and a means to enforce it.. work on a way to educate Consumers about
>> their choices..
>> It is NO big deal to design and build a home that uses half of the current
>> equally sized home.. It is hardly an effort to design and build a home that
>> uses 1/3 of the equally sized currently constructed home... But it does take
>> thought and commitment .. on the part of governing bodies who will turn a
>> deaf ear to the construction and Utility Lobbyists...
>>
>> Ken Larson, Ph.D. 3318 Woodland St. Ames, Iowa 50014 [log in to unmask]
>> (an Architect for 40 yrs.. )
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:46:51 -0500
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Op Ed on Shattering the Myth of Baseload
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>> Good job, Wally.
>>
>> The other fallacy in the Big IOU propaganda is always claiming that it's
>> all about output to meet constantly rising demand. Demand reduction--*
>> conservation*-- is another key to getting our energy economics where they
>> need to be. Alternative sources, distributed generation, and demand
>> reduction increase consumers' security...but threaten short-term ROI (return
>> on investment) for big-time stockholders. The Biggies further profit from
>> rate-payer and tax-payer subsidizing and underwriting of their investment
>> risks in new plant construction, cost-shift or divest their lower-profit
>> operations like transmission, and fight environmental and public health
>> regulations and enforcement.
>>
>> Bill Witt
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pam Mackey-Taylor <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Wally Taylor wrote an oped on Shattering the Myth of Baseload. It
>> appeared this past weekend in the Cedar Rapids Gazette. The link is:
>>
>> http://thegazette.com/2011/05/27/shattering-the-myth-of-baseload/
>>
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