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Subject:
280, 350, 390 ppm CO2
From:
Thomas Mathews <[log in to unmask]>
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Iowa Discussion, Alerts and Announcements
Date:
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To me this is completely fascinating. No, it's not specifically about  
native Iowa plants, but about all life on earth, which just may be the only life 
 anywhere.--Tom
 
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Dear Jim,  


Thank you for your comment. I did not mean to imply that life "depends" on  
280. By saying that it is the foundation on which it rests is different 
because  it is the general atmospheric area where it evolved. That is its 
foundation. It  gave us the necessary cold that maintains the ice which caps 
feedback emissions.  Many species can never recover just because it is not cold 
enough even now. Many  species live longer in cooler places than in the 
warmer ones. Does anyone know  what the upper limit of Greenhouse gases in the 
atmosphere is to maintain all  the species that evolved under cooler 
conditions? Does anyone know how many  species will survive at each degree of 
warming? We do know that most plant and  animal species are already stressed at 
over 389. Ultimately, there are  dependencies, and they take many forms.


But the 280 number is not just about warming. It is also about the chemical 
 balance in the ocean that is already creating problems for marine species, 
not  just corals and certain phytoplankton, but such important species (for 
us) as  salmon.  I guess that the 280 number is about maintaining planetary 
health.  I don't know how far above one can go and maintain optimum health, 
all species,  and reasonable weather systems, but it is clearly well below 
where we are. We do  not know if 350 is low enough. Maybe, we need to go 
lower than 350 for a while  in order to compensate for having been higher.


Moisha




On Aug 4, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Jim Sconyers wrote:

It is not accurate to imply that "life" depends on 280 ppm  of CO2. 
(highlighted below)

Jim Sconyers  
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304.698.9628 

Remember:  Mother Nature bats last.

--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Moisha  Blechman <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:


From:  Moisha Blechman <[log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
Subject:  Fwd: 350.org for web site
To: [log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) 
Date:  Monday, August 3, 2009, 11:52 PM

While I have known for years that the numbers are  crucial, they have been 
neglected. I was delighted, therefore, that  McKibben brought the number 
back into focus. But most people do not  really understand what it is about. I 
wrote the following for our web  site in order to help people understand why 
going back to 350 ppm is  necessary. I'm sending it on to youid case it 
could be useful to  you.

Now, I am starting work on a short leaflet that should  explain global 
warming to the general public, with the hopes of getting  a few people wanting 
to do something about it. Also, it is my feeling,  that for an event to 
resonate, it has to be understood  first.

mkb,

Atlantic Chapter, New York


350.ORG

JOIN THE ATLANTIC CHAPTER IN THE  350.ORG MOVEMENT!

Forty four years ago President Lyndon Johnson's  advisory council warned 
that our green house gas emissions could  generate "marked changes in 
climate."  That's 44 years of  research,  special testifying before Congress etc. at 
huge annual  costs.  Yet, even now, there is no substantive legislation  to 
 reverse climate change.  The House did not do it, and the Senate  will be 
a hard pull. The international meetings on Climate Change  sponsored by the 
UN are going to be difficult.

After 44 years of  political failure, the people must force their hand. We 
need a real  climate security bill in the Senate.  We need to embolden 
President  Obama here at home and in Copenhagen. We need an international treaty 
in  Copenhagen with a plan to phase out fossil fuel emissions by  2030.

Whether we can do it or not is irrelevant.  The  science tells us, we must.

Why? The bottom line is chemistry. The  chemical content of the atmosphere 
determines climate. It is measured in  parts per million of CO2 in the 
atmosphere. We should all know 3  measures that describe climate. They are 280, 
350 and 390. They  represent parts per million of CO2 (carbon dioxide) in the 
atmosphere  and those numerical differences are life and death differences 
for all  that live on the planet.

The historic, pre-industrial 280 ppm is the foundation  upon which both 
life and civilization rests. It is the  number that gives the planet its best 
overall climate.. If we could go  back to 280 ppm it would be ideal.

At this time the atmosphere  contains 390 ppm of CO2, a consequence of 
industrialism. Human activity  is pouring another 3 ppm of CO2 into the 
atmosphere per year. We know  that we have stretched the rubber band too far and it 
has snapped  because the ice is melting, and it is melting at accelerating 
rates  everywhere.  If the ice continues to melt  humanity will lose  control 
of CO2 emissions and the planet will absorb so much heat that  warming will 
spin out of control.  Climate feedbacks, already  activated, will be too 
monumental to reverse.

We can no longer  stop damaging climate change. But we can start major 
damage control. The  key is to reduce that 390 number substantially.  This is 
why James  Hansen, our most eminent atmospheric scientist, says we must 
reverse  course immediately and go to 350 ppm. At this time, our best scientists  
believe that 350 ppm is the upper limit for CO2 in the atmosphere for a  
survivable climate.

As we know from the last 44 years, It won't  happen unless  the people 
speak, and speak forcefully. We can do  that by joining Bill McKibben's 
movement: 350.org.  In response to  350.org, people all over the world will be 
creating a visible action for  October 24th demonstrating the will of the people 
to start the process  of planet repair, whatever it takes. The timing is 
calculated to  influence the December International Climate Change conference 
in  Copenhagen.

The Global Warming Committee of the Atlantic Chapter  encourages everyone 
to google 350.org for more information. The  Chapter's Committee is planning 
a petition, an informational leaflet for  distribution, and suggestions for 
educational initiatives leading to the  24th of October. Join the Chapter in 
our goal to magnify the  international 350.org initiative.

Call us for petitions to  circulate, leaflets to distribute, and actions 
for the 24th of October  to join. (Should this be the Chapter office in 
Albany?)

Be sure  to explore: _www.realclimat.org_ (http://www.realclimat.org/) , 
_www.zerocarbonbritain.com_ (http://www.zerocarbonbritain.com/) ,  
_www.ageofstupid.net_ (http://www.ageofstupid.net/) .

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