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Re: Pesticide makers point to other culprits in bee die-offs
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Cindy Hildebrand <[log in to unmask]>
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Iowa Discussion, Alerts and Announcements
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Thanks, Steve!  Your information is extremely  interesting.   
 
In light of what you said about talc and graphite, the  link below is also 
interesting, especially the boxed paragraph titled  "Requirement."  I take 
it there is no such requirement in the  U.S.?
 
I remember reading somewhere that there are recommendations  for rowcrop 
farmers in the U.S. that are supposed, if followed, to reduce  the neonic fog 
that you described.  I wonder how many Iowa farmers  know about those 
recommendations, let alone follow them. 
 
I came across one study that indicated that the  neonic dust from corn and 
soybean planting can drift fifty  meters.   In Iowa, where so much 
pollinator habitat is in small areas  and where rowcrops dominate the landscape, 
that's a significant edge  impact.   
 
Some papers on neonics recommend that neonic-treated  seed be used only 
where there is demonstrated need (pest populations that  are high enough to 
justify the use of neonic  seed treatments).   Is that recommendation being 
followed in  Iowa?  I don't know.
 
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pubs/pest/_fact-fiche/pollinator-protection-p
ollinisateurs/treated_seed-semences_traitees-eng.php
 
Cindy

Cindy Hildebrand
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Ames, IA  50010

"...White winter, on its knees,
Observes everything with  reverent attention.” 
(Anna Akhmatova)  

 
In a message dated 12/3/2015 5:49:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Hi, 
There is one huge  factor that is totally being overlooked in the 
neonicotinoid issue which is  the seed metering method on planters.  Traditionally 
and still to this  date planters used either plates, brush meters (for 
soybeans), or _finger  pickup units_ 
(http://www.kinze.com/feature.aspx?id=266&Finger+Pickup+Seed+Meters)  to take the seed from a hopper on the row unit and 
drop it in  the ground.  The recent  trend has been to have a bulk fill tank 
on  the center of the planter that blows the seeds to a small hopper on the 
row  units.  At that point another blower blows the seeds against rotating  
plastic discs.  The main advantage of this system is that the farmer does  
not have to handle bags but on our farm the disadvantages of the extra 
$30,000  for the planter system, the $30,000 dollar precision seed tender needed 
to  deliver the seed to the planter, and the $45,000 ¾ ton pickup to pull the 
seed  tender made the economics of handling a few hundred bags of seed corn 
seem  very appealing.   
Back to the bees;  while the seed corn has been highly cleaned, in addition 
to the various seed  treatments including neonicotinoids, there is still 
some dust in the bags and  the farmer is also required to add some form of 
talc or graphite as a seed  flow lubricant that comes in contact with the seed 
and insecticides.  As  the seeds are blown from the bulk tanks to the row 
units and then metered in  the row units with air pressure, the planter is 
continuously exhaling a  neonicotinoid fog across the entire landscape.  
Compare this system to  one in which the seed corn bag is dumped into a box and 
the seed is physically  picked up and dropped in the ground.  While I have not 
done any research,  my instincts would tell me that the amount of 
insecticide reaching off target  sites would drop by 95% with the non-air delivery  
system. 
These older systems  are readily available and if not already an option in 
the manufacturers  planter lines could easily be added.  The cost of the 
systems is usually  less than the more sophisticated air delivery systems with 
the only trade off  being a slight inconvenience to farmers. 
This to me would be  a no brainer first step to help solve this serious  
problem. 
Steve Swan   
From: Iowa Discussion,  Alerts and Announcements 
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 6:12  PM
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Subject: Fwd:  Pesticide makers point to other culprits in bee die-offs 
 

 

 

 
-----Original  Message-----
From: Laurel Hopwood <[log in to unmask] 
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To:  CONS-SPST-BIOTECH-FORUM <[log in to unmask]
CLUB.ORG_ (mailto:[log in to unmask]) >
Sent:  Mon, Nov 23, 2015 8:26 am
Subject: Pesticide makers point to other culprits  in bee die-offs 
 
 
Here's  what we're up against: Multinational agribusiness control with big 
money to  spend on PR, legal efforts, pro-neonic research and political  
influence.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/1df4c6fbcef443d8a59f867f962ae3cb/pesticide-ma
kers-point-other-culprits-bee-die-offs  
Pesticide makers point to other culprits in bee  die-offs
(EDITED)

Bayer and Syngenta are fighting pressure from  regulators in the U.S. and 
Europe with publicity campaigns and lobbying aimed  at telling people that 
neonics are beneficial and safe when used correctly,  and that bees face 
greater peril from parasites, pathogens and poor diets as  wild flowering plants 
diminish.

Representatives for Bayer, Syngenta and  Monsanto — which coats its seeds 
with neonics — are speaking at beekeepers'  conferences and visiting 
agricultural research universities. Bayer invites  visitors, teachers and students 
to its bee centers on its corporate campuses  and offers teachers a 
downloadable digital science lesson about  bees.

Critics say that is propaganda.

Bayer produces three of  the world's top five neonic pesticides in a 
worldwide market estimated to be  worth about $3 billion, with Bayer's two 
top-selling products taking about  half the market. Syngenta's best-selling neonic 
is worth about $1 billion in  annual sales.

Bee losses in the U.S. the past five years have been  especially acute, 
with reported annual losses of 30 percent to 45 percent,  according to a study 
authored by researchers including the University of  Maryland's Dennis van 
Engelsdorp . The heavy death toll continues through the  spring and summer, 
when bee populations are collecting pollen and should be  their healthiest, 
the study said.
Across Europe and nearby countries like  Algeria, beekeepers reported 17 
percent of colonies lost last winter, twice  that of the previous year.

That has regulators and retailers zeroing in  on neonics. The EPA is 
working on new risk assessments, and the European Union  is reviewing a 2 year old 
ban on the biggest-selling neonics from crops during  their flowering stage.

"We're going to push with every ounce of our  energy to get this thing 
reversed," former Syngenta Chief Executive Officer  Michael Mack told stock 
analysts in February.

Here is Sierra Club's  piece on the honeybee crisis:
https://content.sierraclub.org/grassrootsnetwork/team-news/2014/08/deepening
-honeybee-crisis-and-our-food-supply
Laurel  Hopwood,  Coordinator, Sierra Club Pollinator Protection  Campaign
Email: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) 

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