Here's something that might be of interest. It's an excerpt from an e-mail I just sent this evening to Bob Gronski, who works for the National Catholic Rural Life Conference, here in Des Moines. Bob had asked if I was familiar with the ideas of Miguel Altieri. Earlier this year, I had mentioned to Jim, just as we were starting writing the "Genetic Engineering at a Crossroads" piece that appears on our website, something to the effect that, while I did not oppose the acquistion of scientific knowledge, I thought it wrong for biologists to destroy the subject matter of their science, as molecular biologists are now on the verge of doing. Below, in an e-mail to Bob Gronski, I discussed this concept in a little more detail. Rich, have you seen this thread of discussion elsewhere, among the writings of bioethicists or others? This is from the e-mail to Bob: I was trying to remember where I had read an article by Miguel Altieri, just recently. Now I remember that it was in a superb new publication, a colorful, well designed magazine called Safe Food News, published by Mothers for Natural law. I picked up a copy of it at Campbells Health Food Store here in Des Moines early last month. Then at the rally in Iowa City about two weeks ago I got a box of about 100 copies of the magazine. Let me know if you would like some copies of this publication. Altieri says wonderful things in his article about the threats from genetic engineering to the integrity and dignity of life. He is identified at the end of the article as an agroecologist from U.C. Berkeley. On the opposite page is an article by Martha Herbert, MD, PhD, an instructor in neurology at Harvard Med School. She discusses agroecology in her article. I'm pretty sure it was this article that introduced me to the fact that there exists a field of study called agroecology. So I've known the word "agroecology" for only about a month, but it has set my imagination to working overtime. This is the proper way to use science. To work with nature to achieve health, prosperity and beauty. Genetic engineering is just the opposite. It threatens to destroy the very subject matter of the science in which its practictioners are trained--biology. No other science that I know of has the potential to do that--and the enthusiastic practitioners to get the job done Physics and chemistry, despite giving scientists and engineers the ability to make bombs able to destroy entire planets, still do not give anyone the ability to destroy the subject mattter of chemistry and physics. Matter, time, energy, the chemical elements--all would survive a nuclear war. Life is much more delicate. Biologists--whose job it is to learn all they can about life--could now, armed with genetic engineering, destroy life. Tom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To get off the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: [log in to unmask]