Hi Pam I'll get in touch with Dave. Thanks for the suggestion. Jack on 12/19/01 6:52 PM, Pam Mackey-Taylor at [log in to unmask] wrote: Dave Osterburg would be a good starting point. He worked for Vilsack for a while on energy issues. He also has a think tank involved with these issues. A couple of years ago, he gave a presentation at the annual dinner for the Iowa Chapter of Sierra Club related to your questions. Pam Mackey-Taylor