Happy New Year to you all. Has anyone read the book "A Green History of the World, The Environment and the Collapse of Great Civilizations" by Clive Ponting? I would really like to know what others think of this book since I somehow had never heard of it and it has just displaced E.O. Wilson's "The Diversity of Life" as my #1 Must-Read book. It a book that I always thought should have been written. And it turns out that it has. Like many books, it doesn't really say anything new as much as it pulls it all together. And my conclusion...There is NO hope! (But that's not a good enough reason not to keep trying.) Rereading the accounts of the passenger pigeons, and this little quote: "The scale of the continuing destruction to amuse the crowds across the Roman empire, year after year, for centuries, can be guessed at from the fact that 9,000 captured animals were killed during the 100 day celebration of the dedication of the Coliseum in Rome and 11,000 were slain to mark Trajan's conquest of the new province of Dacia. By the early centuries AD, the elephant, rhinoceros and zebra were extinct in north Africa, the hippopotamus in the lower Nile and the tiger in north Persia and Mesopotamia." It is still in print, paperback from Penguin Books. If you've read it, email me. If you haven't, then be sure you do and then email me. Thanks. MJ Hatfield - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - For SC email list T-and-C, send: GET TERMS-AND-CONDITIONS.CURRENT to [log in to unmask]