He asked Americans to be prudent in their consumption of energy, but called the hurricane a "temporary disruption" to gasoline supplies. "Don't buy gas if you don't need it," the president said. Subj: Re: [CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS] strategy and tactics beyond the summit Date: 8/22/2005 3:02:45 AM Central Daylight Time From:    [log in to unmask] (Darrell Clarke) Sender:    [log in to unmask] (Chp & Grp Global Warming Energy Chairs) Reply-to: [log in to unmask] (Chp & Grp Global Warming Energy Chairs) To:    [log in to unmask] Good op-ed, Ron. (And thanks, Mark, for highlighting the Hirsch report at projectcensored.org. That's perhaps the best overall statement of Peak Oil out there.) Which brings me to my main point. The Sierra Club has been advocating clean energy, higher mpg, and reduction in greenhouse emissions for quite awhile, and as Curt asks, can more of the same make the needed difference? What's changed is rising gasoline prices as a manifestation of oil demand exceeding production, and the theory of Peak Oil becoming more generally known. These can be our leverage. I see the political system searching for possible solutions to falling oil supply, and consumers reacting to high prices as they never would have otherwise. There are two possible paths: 1. The DIRTY path, of drilling everywhere including wilderness and off-shore, of tar-sands production, of more coal, and renewed nuclear. 2. The CLEAN path, of rapid shift to hybrid, pluggable-hybrid, and electric vehicles; of reduced driving via transit, less commuting, and ridesharing; of as-rapid-as-possible expansion of the currently very small share of wind and solar; of focus on conservation; and on biofuels that have positive energy return (unlike ethanol from corn). I would like to see us at the Summit advance the Club's current energy policy to include: 1. Explicit acknowledgement of Peak Oil (and peak North American natural gas production) as near-term events that we have no choice but to plan for, and 2. A CLEAN-path energy plan where the numbers add up, that shows how conservation and renewable sources can close the gap of declining oil and gas. Credibility comes from quantification. And then? National announcement of the new Sierra Club plan, combined with local activism with the public and elected officials, presenting a solution that is clean and can work, while the government appears to not know what to do. These email conversations before the Summit are a great start! Darrell Angeles Chapter (Delegate) -----Original Message----- From: Chp & Grp Global Warming Energy Chairs [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Stephen Crowley Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS] strategy and tactics beyond the summit Ron,  I agree  with what you say here. Nothing currently on the table will "get the job done."  I do think that the CCP effort, which is totally conceived as a staff/volunteer partnership, by the way, can move us in a good direction, for several reasons.  It can mobilize locally.  It can think globally.  It can put a variety of solutions up for grabs.  It can help get past the heals-dug-in resistance to thinking about climate as something we need to and can do something about.  It can get past the fatalism and resignation that the powers-that-be love to see in their subjects.  It can be a great basis for building coalitions and learning how to communicate.  It can be a foundation for education. But it is not the only way to do those things, maybe not even the best, but it can be a very good way to do those things. But the "job" is enormous.  Anyone who tells you they've got the roadmap all worked out is overly impressed with their own talents. I do think we can move well down the road toward a strong and cohesive national strategy. Some of that may come from the deliberative sessions.  I want to be optimistic, but a couple of four hour sessions are not likely to provide any silver bullets when we're struggling so seriously (externally) across the board.  I have very high hopes (and some optimism) that with our opportunities to get together as global warming activists and leaders, along with a buy-in by many others throughout the club, that we can redefine how we approach these (and maybe some other) issues.  I suspect it may also redefine how we see our roles as GWE leaders (and I do mean staff, volunteer, local, national, chapter, regionally). At the summit, we already have a gathering of GWE activist leaders scheduled for Thursday, prior to the first deliberative session.  There is an emerging plan to do this a second time, at lunchtime on Saturday, which would be after the second deliberative session.  The idea of these two sessions is first, to ensure that the Club nationally responds appropriately to the scale of the climate change problem, establishing this as an overwhelming priority and giving it the resources it needs, and second, to collaborate among all of us about what that campaign should look like. Steve Crowley, GWE chair At 09:36 PM 8/21/2005, Ron McLinden wrote: >I don't think doing "more of the same" will get the job done -- and I >don't know that Roger was implying that it could. Nor am I convinced that >staff's campaign to pressure mayors who signed the Climate Protection >Agreement will get the job done either. > >Among the big issues we'll need to struggle with at the Summit -- in >addition to what issues to prioritize -- are >[1] what strategies and tactics do we adopt for accomplishing our major >goals, and >[2] how will staff and volunteers collaborate in that decision-making. > >It might get messy, but we'll have to do it. > > >----- Forwarded by Ron McLinden/mg/kcmo on 08/21/2005 08:24 PM ----- > >Curt Smith <[log in to unmask]> > >08/21/2005 08:21 PM >To [log in to unmask] >cc >Subject Re: [CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS] Cities for Climate Protection Campaign >launch this fall > >Roger, you ask a great question.   Let me ask this group a deeper question. > >Does everyone here feel that if the club would do more of the same, maybe >only with more vigor, or saying it louder or getting more folks to hold >signs will finally get W, or state leaders to listen and en-act our goals, >such that climate certasterphy will be avoided? > >Think about your tactics.  Did your tactics reach the Governor, Senators, >President and cause them to change their current course and start planning >and voting the necessary changes?  Small successes are nice, but are >current club tactics succeeding with the necessary BIG changes that will >be neccessary to curb and make the corner with GW? > >Curt >GA chapter > >Roger Zimmerman wrote: > > >What can/should California do here ubeyond current efforts? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Join us at Sierra Summit 2005.  For information go to: http://www.sierrasummit2005.org/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from  rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.141.67]) by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id MAILINYD24-2074309867b107; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 04:02:44 -0400 Received: from  DIABLO.SIERRACLUB.ORG (lists.sierraclub.org [207.90.163.2]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYD39-2074309867b107; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 04:02:05 -0400 Received: from DIABLO (diablo.sierraclub.org) by DIABLO.SIERRACLUB.ORG (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; 21 Aug 2005 21:20:13 -0700 Received: by LISTS.SIERRACLUB.ORG (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 14.3) with spool id          5734513 for [log in to unmask]; Sun, 21          Aug 2005 21:20:12 -0700 Received: from ws6-1.us4.outblaze.com by DIABLO.SIERRACLUB.ORG (LSMTP for          Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; 21          Aug 2005 21:20:12 -0700 Received: (qmail 11535 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2005 04:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO DThinkPad) ([log in to unmask]@71.107.58.95) by          ws6-1.us4.outblaze.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2005 04:20:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal Message-ID:  <[log in to unmask]> Date:         Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:20:10 -0700 Reply-To: Chp & Grp Global Warming Energy Chairs              <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Chp & Grp Global Warming Energy Chairs <[log in to unmask]> From: Darrell Clarke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [CONS-SPST-GLOBALWARM-CHAIRS] strategy and tactics beyond the summit To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To:  <[log in to unmask]> Precedence: list X-AOL-IP: 207.90.163.2 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:502936501:15032385 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubsribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: [log in to unmask] Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp Sign up to receive Sierra Club Insider, the flagship e-newsletter. 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