A Thin Code indeed, Cindy. I'm convinced that PepsiCoke's and the grocers' strategy is to block any and every proposed change in the bottle bill (except of course outright repeal). If they can't kill the law, then they will settle for slowly starving out the redemption centers. Fleagle & his cohorts will never concede a point to the redemption centers, environmentalists, and the vast majority (85%) of the public; thus Gronstal and Murphy are sniffling through crocodile tears when they whimper about needing "consensus" from The Lobby before they can act. Don't we elect representatives to LEAD and to FORGE consensus?! (It's been done, I swear! Why, back in the day...) Culver did well to drop his 10 cents/8 cents provision. Beall's minimalist proposal to double the handling fee is devilishly simple: if it alone were passed, it would of course boost the economics of the redemption centers. But it would also probably eat up most of the unclaimed deposits account, diverting much of $17-20 million a year from the bottlers & distributors to the redemption centers. The Corporate Green Shaders profess not to care about small change like that; they figure they profit much more from straight throughputs of aluminum and plastic, with cleanup and recycling cost-shifted to the public. But if the distributors lost their stake in $20 million--that might force them to openly side with the public and redemption centers. Take a side for what? Maybe to go to 10 cents and increase the container volume?! I think that's how they'd have to rebalance the equation. The other big consideration is that if we can move something, we have to get as much as we can in this session. Another "reopening" of the bottle bill won't likely happen again for many years. (It's not gambling, after all.) Bill Quoting Cindy Hildebrand <[log in to unmask]>: > > Interesting, Bill. I don't recall that the current CAFO law had "consensus > support from the Lobby," but there it is in the Iowa Code. If the > Legislature waited for "consensus support from the Lobby" before > doing anything, the > Code would be mighty thin. > > Cindy Hildebrand > > > "In the late seventies and early eighties, buffalo robes were sold in > Grinnell for from $5.00 to $15.00. It was a poor farmer who did not > possess his > buffalo robe and his buffalo coat...No woven stuffs, no other furs can ever > replace, for fancy, those old-time comforters. In those days, the > herds still > lingered in the Missouri Valley..." (Selden Lincoln Whitcomb) > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: > [log in to unmask] > > Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: > http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: [log in to unmask] Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp