No chemicals - I am willing to go that route but you will need to market my scabby apples that no woman/man would buy at any market. daryl andersen wrote: > I think that heavy grazing could damage prairie plants. I also think > that our real efforts need to be focused on proper farming methods > where most of the land has hay, oats, open pasture coverage and reduce > row crops to provide grass fed animals and improve the health of > humanity at the same time. Free range our animals- all of them. And no > chemicals for any purpose!!! > Daryl > On Jul 8, 2008, at 7:53 AM, Donna Buell wrote: > >> Would somebody please explain why haying would devastate prairie >> plantings? >> Are we concerned about the plants ability to go to seed? >> >> It seems that prairie survived for thousands of years with large animals >> grazing. The only concerns I've ever heard about grazing are where >> we give >> the animals unfettered access to waterways and they cause stream bank >> damage >> and erosion. >> >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Iowa Discussion, Alerts and Announcements >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve & Connie >> Swan >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:22 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Iowa state parks and public lands proposed for grazing and >> haying >> >> A lot of the interstate right of ways in Iowa have been involved in >> great >> prairie restoration projects which would be devastated by haying and >> need no >> mowing. >> >> Steve Swan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Iowa Discussion, Alerts and Announcements >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jerry Neff >> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:09 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Iowa state parks and public lands proposed for grazing and >> haying >> >> I do not want our state parks to be pastures. Except for safety >> concerns, I >> have >> always felt that right of way along interstates should be used to >> harvest >> something useful like hay. Nebraska allows farmers to bale hay along >> I-80. >> Maybe >> the state could rent the land to the farmers so instead of spending >> money to >> mow >> they could have an income from the land. One down side is that so many >> farmers >> now a days do not have livestock and thus no need for hay. Jerry N >> >> >> ---------------------- Original Message: --------------------- >> From: Donna Buell <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Iowa state parks and public lands proposed for grazing and >> haying >> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:36:02 +0000 >> >>> If we had the farm animals in pastures where they belonged, the >>> pasture grasses would still be there for the livestock to eat. And >>> they would have soaked up lots of water that flooded instead. >>> >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Cindy Hildebrand wrote: >>> >>>> Per below, the issues range from habitat degradation to the >>>> spreading of invasive exotics via seeds in cattle manure and >>>> contaminated haying equipment. >>>> >>>> Cindy >>>> >>>> *** >>>> Iowa official: Open state land for haying, grazing >>>> Monday July 7, 2:04 pm ET >>>> AP >>>> Iowa Ag Secretary Northey asks Culver to open state lands for >>>> haying, grazing to aid producers >>>> >>>> DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) -- Iowa Agriculture Secretary Bill Northey >>>> wants to consider using state parks, roadside right of ways and >>>> medians for haying and grazing. >>>> >>>> Northey says opening the land could help livestock producers who are >>>> struggling with record feed prices. >>>> >>>> In a request sent to Gov. Chet Culver on Monday, Northey says that >>>> it won't be a "silver bullet" but the move could help producers. >>>> >>>> Culver's office is reviewing the letter, which was also sent to the >>>> Iowa Department of Natural Resources and the state Department of >>>> Transportation. A spokesman for Northey says the secretary doesn't >>>> know how much land the request entails. >>>> *** >>>> >>>> Cindy Hildebrand >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> Ames, IA 50010 >>>> >>>> "Today in these fields the fruit of several species of milkweed hang >>>> unopened, still green, but a little later the silken coma and the >>>> bright linings of the pods will bring pleasure to many >>>> eyes." (Selden Lincoln Whitcomb describing Grinnell, Iowa in 1907) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gas prices getting you down? 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