No problem, Debbie.
 
Bill, I had your quote wrong: it was the ideological aisle and falling  out 
of the pew. As I said, good metaphors.
 
Tom
 
In a message dated 12/19/2008 2:40:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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I am  sorry if this offended anyone.

Debbie Neustadt wrote:
> Tom has  started and its seems that every comment made keeps him going.
>
>  Thomas Mathews wrote:
>> Spot-on metaphors there regarding the  ideological pew and 
>> Clintonitis, Bill.
>>   
>> So, how do we mobilize the amazing outpouring of grassroots  support 
>> for Obama that we saw during the campaign and put it to  work to 
>> vaccinate the Obama administration against Clintonitis?  That's not a 
>> rhetorical question.
>>  
>>  As for Ken's complaint that my single issue has not registered with  
>> the general public, well I do have to apologize for that. I am  not a 
>> very good activist. I'm too busy earning a living to have  much time 
>> or energy left when I get home from work to do much  organizing or 
>> educating. I'm on winter break now, so I can e-mail  during the day. 
>> (And by the way, I'm concerned with many issues,  most of which 
>> Vilsack is bad on. Let's hope Obama proves to be  better on those 
>> issues than he appears just now. He hasn't even  been inaugurated, 
>> after all.)
>>  
>> But  the fact is, we as environmentalists should be concerned about 
>>  the release of genetically engineered organisms into the environment.  
>> Life may not exist anywhere else in the Universe. If it does,  it's 
>> safe to say the life forms on Earth are unique and  irreplaceable. 
>> Genetic engineering mutilates life at the  molecular level. And the 
>> transgenes introduced into organisms by  genetic engineering are 
>> passed on to future  generations.
>>  
>> (Genetically engineered organisms  are now commonly referred to as 
>> genetically modified organisms,  or GMOs. Transgenes are sections of 
>> DNA (genes) transplanted from  one organism into another of a 
>> different species. Genes from a  fish have been engineered into a 
>> strawberry plant, for  example.)
>>  
>> If General Motors puts bad brake pads  in some of its vehicles, those 
>> products can be recalled and the  mistakes corrected. No recalls are 
>> possible for transgenes from  GMOs released into the environment. 
>> Transgenes from GMO corn have  been found in native corn in Mexico in 
>> the region of origin for  maize. This could ultimately mean that the 
>> entire species that we  call corn (Zea mays) will be contaminated with 
>>  transgenes.   
>> This is a very serious health concern, as  Gov. Vilsack and others 
>> support using corn as a "pharm" crop,  that is, to engineer genes into 
>> corn plants that cause the plant  to produce pharmaceutical 
>> substances. If these pharm genes spread  into corn grown for food 
>> there could be toxic or allergenic  effects on people eating that 
>> corn. If the pharm genes spread  widely, corn would no longer be 
>> available as a food  crop.
>>  
>> Corn is only one species, but the  supporters of GMO agriculture see 
>> no limits to the number of  different crop species that could be 
>> "improved" by genetic  engineering.
>>  
>> It is simply wrong in a moral  sense for humans to inflict this 
>> genetic damage on other species.  There is even an effort to produce 
>> GMO trees. This must be  stopped and it is Sierra Club that should 
>> play a leading role--  THE leading role--in stopping it. (Current 
>> national Sierra Club  policy calls for a moratorium on the release of 
>> GMOs into the  environment.)
>>  
>> Genetic engineering, confined to  a laboratory or factory, is being 
>> used to do important research  and to make useful substances for 
>> medicine and other fields. All  GMOs should be confined. Releasing 
>> them into the environment is  an action that has grave moral, 
>> environmental, and safety  implications. All pharm crops should be 
>> confined in  greenhouses.
>>  
>> For about the past two decades,  the federal government, through the 
>> EPA, USDA, and FDA, has taken  the role of promoter of genetic 
>> engineering in agriculture, when  they should have been strictly 
>> regulating it. We must convince  the Obama administration to reverse 
>> this pattern. Early  indications are that this will be a daunting 
>> task. After 100 days  I hope to be proven wrong. That's as positive an 
>> attitude as I  can manage now, Ken.
>>  
>> Space does not permit my  discussing in this note other issues of 
>> concern to  me.
>>  
>> Tom
>>  
>>   
>> In a message dated 12/19/2008 11:48:59 A.M. Central Standard  Time, 
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>>   I for one don't intend to apologize for voting for Obama, nor for  
>> that
>>     matter am I sorry that my  wife and I supported him financially (with
>>     more  $$ by at least an order of magnitude than we've ever given
>>   another candidate); we also housed an Obama staffer, gratis, for  7
>>     months; and we volunteered many days of  effort.  I am concerned,
>>     however, that  Obama may be developing a more serious case of     
>>  Clintonitis than I'd expected, and that it should be treated  early.
>>
>>     I'm bothered by the Vilsack  appointment--Tom Matthews is right 
>> that      Vilsack panders to the corporate imperators,
>>      while paying loftysounding lip service to us non-rich,      
>> non-influential, plebeian
>>      types.  SC's concerns about his "truthiness" were conveyed in  the
>>     tone     of the news  release,
>>     which expressed  "congratulations."  Compare that to the release 
>> on  the
>>     Solis appointment, in which Carl Pope uses  the word "overjoyed".
>>
>>     I'm also  bothered by the naming of Rick Warren to give the
>>   invocation     at the Inauguration.  This is  a symbolic and 
>> momentary appointment
>>   of     course, but it is also high-profile.   I have gay and 
>> lesbian friends     who are  thunderstruck that such a prominent 
>> homophobe will  be
>>     first on     the podium on  the Capitol porch.  Obama may see this 
>> as reaching   across the ideological aisle, but he can reach 
>>  without falling out
>>     of     the  pew.
>>
>>      BW
>>
>>
>>
>>     Quoting  KENNETH LARSON <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>>   > Some need to get "real" and give the Obama administration  a   
>>     > chance... Maybe a positive  attitude would go a long way to
>>     success   > when advocating for your seemingly single issue  
>> that has not       > registered with the  general population...
>>      >


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