That's my point.  Has Sierra Club changed (is changing) its thinking?   
Sustainable consumption is always an issue, of course.  And we  
Americans are especially awful about it.  Here's a great interview of  
Michael Pollan who explains a new ethic about our relationship with  
the land.  From Yale Environment 360, "Michael Pollan on What's Wrong  
with Environmentalism"

http://e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2031

Donna




On Aug 18, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Jerry Neff wrote:

>  For what ever fuel is used to create energy, the main issue is a  
> steady and constant supply.  Conservation of our forests and a  
> steady and constant supply do not go hand in hand.  There is always  
> the constant urge to cut more than just small diameter trees and  
> dead underbrush.  Unless Sierra Club has changed their thinking,  
> biofuels from forests is a bad idea.  Jerry
> -------------- Original message from Donna Buell <[log in to unmask] 
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>
> Wally highlights an internal discussion going on in Sierra Club, I  
> believe.  On the one hand, why not use this "forest waste" for  
> energy?  Native Americans managed forests for millennia.  On the  
> other hand, are we creating a market for a product that will grow  
> beyond just "recycling waste"?  Corn ethanol started out as a waste  
> product of high fructose corn syrup, for example.
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> On Aug 16, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Wallace Taylor wrote:
>
>> This announcement is basically generalities. The real importance  
>> will be in the details. I hope there really is a new perspective  
>> toward forests. Vilsack has always been a corporate lackey so I  
>> think we need to be vigilant.
>>
>> One point did fly out at me. He talks of using forests as a source  
>> for biofuels. This seems to continue the view of foresters that  
>> forests are crops to be planted, managed and harvested for human  
>> consumption, not as a part of the ecosystem in their own right.
>>
>> Wally Taylor
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