You're right, Wally, about not all munis...and the RECs. But at least there are some (better)examples for people to point to. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Wally Taylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Bill: > > Not all munis are as enlightened as CFU. And the RECs are absolutely > terrible. So it isn't necessarily stakeholders v. shareholders. I think we > just need to keep educating the public. > > Wally Taylor > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Witt <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 11:10 am > Subject: Re: Op Ed on Shattering the Myth of Baseload > > > Well put, Ken. We do have some encouraging examples of MUNICIPAL > utilities promoting and educating for demand reduction. Cedar Falls > Utilties (CFU) has a community-wide effort involving winter flyovers and > themal imaging of all residences, free individual home and business energy > audits, coordination with the Episcopal Diocese of Iowa and other religious > denominations on the "Cool Congregations" program (statewide coordinator is > Sarah Webb, [log in to unmask] ), rebates for customers' purchases of > energy efficient appliances, weatherization & insulation, shade trees, etc. > CFU also spearheaded development of Iowa's first wind farm owned by a > consortium of Muni's, and they contract for the lion's share of power it > generates. As I understand it, many other Iowa Muni's are engaged in > similar efforts. Why the difference between the Muni's and the IOU's? Could > it have something to do with commitment to serving stakeholders vs > shareholders? > > Bill Witt > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:49 AM, KENNETH LARSON <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Good Job Wally.. >> >> But the problem with All Energy Company Projections is that they only give >> lip service to reducing Demand.. while they will give rebates to customers >> who install better windows and appliances there are no really effective >> campaigns by the Utilities to address the Demand side of the Equation used >> in Projections.. The companies do not utilize even the basic effective >> energy projection models in addressing user audits. ... >> >> Now the country fights small wars with volunteers.. and it doesn't get too >> messy or make anyone change their lives very much.. So this same approach is >> used in the Battle to reduce Energy dependence on those places where we >> fight those wars.... So the consumer cannot even educate themselves on how >> to best reduce demand. Sure, sure change your light bulbs to compact >> fluorescents but does the customer really understand how reduction in >> Wattage also affects reducing internal heat load generated by lighting... or >> do they understand how East and West Facing (unshaded) Windows affect >> internal Heat Gain in Summer... . Do consumers really understand the >> difference in installing quality constructed windows with Double of Triple >> Glazed Low E Glass , No... Does the Consumer understand the difference in >> Air-Conditioning Units SEER rating..NO... Certainly the Builders will >> install the cheapest (and as a result the most energy inefficient) A/C >> units.. (The Builder doesn't pay the Operating Bill, so why should he >> care...) >> >> So the Consumer thinks..."Just so the house energy bill doesn't hurt too >> much".. "I just can't invest in my house now."... "I have to be able to >> afford driving my SUV and Big Pick-Up around to the job and Grocery >> store..." So Iowa does not have an effective energy code ... or does not >> choose to make the Energy Companies Police Huge Inefficient Users... Iowa >> chooses instead to require at the sale of any house to pump out the septic >> system... and Let the buyer beware of what it costs to heat and cool the >> McMansion... built on 2 1/2 Acres of Last years Corn field... >> >> So where can SC be effective... work on the State adoption of an Energy >> Code.. and a means to enforce it.. work on a way to educate Consumers about >> their choices.. >> It is NO big deal to design and build a home that uses half of the current >> equally sized home.. It is hardly an effort to design and build a home that >> uses 1/3 of the equally sized currently constructed home... But it does take >> thought and commitment .. on the part of governing bodies who will turn a >> deaf ear to the construction and Utility Lobbyists... >> >> Ken Larson, Ph.D. 3318 Woodland St. Ames, Iowa 50014 [log in to unmask] >> (an Architect for 40 yrs.. ) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:46:51 -0500 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: Op Ed on Shattering the Myth of Baseload >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> >> Good job, Wally. >> >> The other fallacy in the Big IOU propaganda is always claiming that it's >> all about output to meet constantly rising demand. Demand reduction--* >> conservation*-- is another key to getting our energy economics where they >> need to be. Alternative sources, distributed generation, and demand >> reduction increase consumers' security...but threaten short-term ROI (return >> on investment) for big-time stockholders. The Biggies further profit from >> rate-payer and tax-payer subsidizing and underwriting of their investment >> risks in new plant construction, cost-shift or divest their lower-profit >> operations like transmission, and fight environmental and public health >> regulations and enforcement. >> >> Bill Witt >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pam Mackey-Taylor < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Wally Taylor wrote an oped on Shattering the Myth of Baseload. It >> appeared this past weekend in the Cedar Rapids Gazette. The link is: >> >> http://thegazette.com/2011/05/27/shattering-the-myth-of-baseload/ >> >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To >> unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: >> [log in to unmask] Check out our Listserv >> Lists support site for more information: >> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp Sign up to receive Sierra Club >> Insider, the flagship e-newsletter. 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