BTW: I will add "libertarian experience with prior government action" right after "conservative fear" on my list of why so many of our Iowa farmers prefer the bird in the hand over two in the bush. Donna On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:01 AM, Donna Buell <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I rent my farm and I do not use the land for tax write-offs. > > Donna Buell > > --sent from my iPhone. > > >> On Oct 14, 2013, at 7:39 PM, gerald neff <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> There has been some talk about updating the farm subsidy by careful selection. More than half the ag acres in Iowa are rented. The owner uses the farm for tax write offs. Farmers who farm 400 acres or less are the ones who really need subsidies to stay in business. There is definitely a need to overhaul the program. Jerry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Donna Buell <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 09:18:55 -0500 (CDT) >> Subject: Re: Iowa View: State has turned into a 'toilet' for industrial ag >> >> Just a thought for conversation…. >> >> Maybe the crop subsidies prop up a system that would otherwise collapse further upon Iowa rural humans? (We can't say "people" anymore, can we?) If the Cato Institute is trashing the subsidies, I almost think there might be something in there for the humans after all. Iowa farmers may be those "middle-size farms" that would suffer from sudden dramatic shifts in subsidies -- and just killing the subsidies would make the shift likely be towards more industrial rather than less. >> >> Tie the subsidies to conservation practices, hold Obama to his promise to use antitrust authority for fair and open markets for livestock, new subsidies for beginning farmers and local organic -- but be cautious of taking a "safety net" away from Iowa rural humans? >> >> >> Donna >> >> >> >>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 8:26 AM, renata sack <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Bill Leonard's article is super good! >>> >>>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 6:18 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: >>>> >>>> Article Title: Iowa View: State has turned into a 'toilet' for industrial ag >>>> >>>> >>>> To view the contents on www.desmoinesregister.com, go to: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201310140405/OPINION01/310140043 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Message:Check out this great article "Iowa View: State has turned into a "toilet" for industrial ag how true. >>>> >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>> To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: >>>> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp >>>> >>>> To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: >>>> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp >>> >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>> To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: >>> [log in to unmask] >>> >>> Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: >>> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp >>> >>> To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: >>> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: >> [log in to unmask] >> >> Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: >> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp >> >> To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: >> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: >> [log in to unmask] >> >> Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: >> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp >> >> To view the Sierra Club List Terms & Conditions, see: >> http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/terms.asp >> > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: > [log in to unmask] > > Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: > http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp > > Sign up to receive Sierra Club Insider, the flagship > e-newsletter. Sent out twice a month, it features the Club's > latest news and activities. Subscribe and view recent > editions at http://www.sierraclub.org/insider/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe from the IOWA-TOPICS list, send any message to: [log in to unmask] Check out our Listserv Lists support site for more information: http://www.sierraclub.org/lists/faq.asp Sign up to receive Sierra Club Insider, the flagship e-newsletter. Sent out twice a month, it features the Club's latest news and activities. Subscribe and view recent editions at http://www.sierraclub.org/insider/