I thought this was an interesting point about chapters and groups and that you may benefit from reading it. It came from the Council Delegates Listserv. Sheila In a message dated 8/29/1999 11:07:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > > For Chapters that are statewide, the Groups are > · Fundamental to the strength and success of the Chapter and the Club > · The most effective way to serve and involve members around a state > · The most cost-effective interface between the Club and our general > membership and the public > · The training and recruiting ground for Chapter officers, committee chairs, > activists, outing leaders, etc. > · A great way for the Club to work on local as well as statewide issues > · And much more. > > I picture the Club to Chapter and Chapter to Group relationships as very > similar, with a Chapter composed of Groups just as the Club is composed of > the > Chapters. The Club works on federal issues, the Chapters work on statewide > issues and the Groups work on local issues. > > The Chapters do have a major but not exclusive role in managing their Groups > and ensuring that they comply with Club policies and procedures. The > Chapters > are clearly in the best position to do this effectively, especially when all > of the Groups participate and vote in the Chapter EXCOM. (I recommend this > be > mandatory in the new bylaws.) Managing their Groups may be somewhat of a > burden on Chapters, but a necessary one. > > On the other hand, occasionally a national entity creates an unnecessary and > excessive burden on the Chapters by asking the Chapter for detailed info > about > each Group, when it could have asked the Groups directly. The OE newsletter > survey was a very burdensome example of this and should not be repeated. > > The Club also needs to respect the high degree of autonomy that allows > effective Groups to work independently from the Chapter on local > conservation, > membership, outing and fundraising activities. It is exactly this autonomy > that makes the Groups a powerful force multiplier for the Chapters and the > Club, just as the Chapters are for the Club. Respecting this autonomy means, > for example, considering Group funds, income and assets separately from > Chapter funds, income and assets. It also means framing the Canvass "turf" > boundaries in terms of Group boundaries. When the Canvass folks simply name > some metropolitan area with several adjoining Groups, it can be difficult to > get buy-in from the correct Groups. > > Although I can see some room for clarification, and I have my own ideas > about > what works for Chapters/Groups, I also believe that our diversity in > Chapters > structures is part of our strength. Only very compelling arguments would > justify forcing more conformity. Something missing which might be helpful is > an effective means for Chapters to share in detail what works well for them. > This could help us gain the most benefit from our diversity, and perhaps > encourage voluntarily standardizing on what seems to work best. > > I would like to hear all of the concerns that Carl presents to the CCL EXCOM. > > > If the CCL wants to set up a committee or task force on Chapter/Group > relations I might be available. I was a Group founder and Chair before > becoming a Chapter officer.